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Podcast: Episode 24: Ubuntu and Our Human Community with Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi

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This podcast series focuses on the intersection of Consciousness and Self. This is our “Journey into Enlightenment.” At the core of human reality is Consciousness. Humans are self-defining creatures. We develop rule sets and stories that generate our experiences of reality. Consciousness is the state of awareness in each of us where our self-defined realities are only one of the many options in potential that could be expressed.

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This episode is the first of two about Ubuntu. Elements that will be mentioned in the two conversations will be mentioned both here and in our next episode description. The reality of Oneness, that we all exist in relation to everything, is an awareness that has roots in both Indigenous and Western approaches. The African approach is Ubuntu. Joining Janet is her friend and sister in Being, Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi, from Johannesburg, South Africa. Trained in both Western and Chinese Medicine, she is also initiated as an Indigenous Knowledge system practitioner (IKS) as a Shaman/Sangoma/Diviner. Together they will explore Ubuntu and its healing approach to our human community.

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Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi

Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi, is an Indigenous Knowledge System Practitioner (IKS). She was Initiated as a Shaman/Sangoma/Diviner and holds several degrees of healing among them in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and Acupuncture. She has traveled far and wide working with indigenous peoples in Nepal, India, China, USA and Motherland Africa. She is the author of “Odyssey of a Healer” describing a ten-year personal spiritual pilgrimage and the experiences of other healers she has interacted with, during her many travels. It was a journey exploring the “Healing Power of Nature.” Her quest has been to unravel the mystery that underlies the foundations anchoring “Our State of Oneness,” beyond the created and perceived divisions in existence.

She is a vessel to liberally share her spiritual insight with others in their pursuit to unravel the mystery of Mother Nature as the Giver of Life, the Nurturer and Healer. She is comfortable with ritual and the lyrical languages and realms of the heavens, Star Seeds, Blessed Ones, the Ancients and Elders of traditions as she is with modern men and women and the wisdom of the scientist. She straddles the realms of Spirit, Lemuria, Atlantis, and is a carrier of the history and time of all people. She embodies our African Mother that lives in each of us.

Her Holistic Practice is located in Orange Grove, Johannesburg, South Africa.


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“We are All a manifestation of the Greater I AM, basically a microcosm of the Macrocosm.”

Larry Dossey, MD, “One Mind: How Our Individual Mind Is Part of a Greater Consciousness and Why It Matters”

“As long as we believe we are separate, there will be all manner of dysfunction in the world, but when we embrace our Oneness, there is nothing we cannot overcome.”

Larry Dossey, MD, “One Mind: How Our Individual Mind Is Part of a Greater Consciousness and Why It Matters”

“Human differences are superficial…What unites us is far more significant than what divides us…Under our skins we are all Africans, the metaphorical sons and daughters of the man from Kibish.”

Chris Stringer, head of the Human Origins Group at London’s Natural History Museum, and Robin McKie, science editor of The Observer, “African Exodus: The Origins of Modern Humanity”

“Our Individual Mind is Part of a Greater Consciousness. Eloquently expressed in UBUNTU - Umumntu ngumuntu ngabantu / Motho ke motho ka batho ba bangwe. We are All of One SOURCE. Our individual Mind bears its origin from the Infinite Mind, a Universal One Mind that subsumes and unites all individual minds. This view of ONENESS / UBUNTU predates All. All philosophies and religion are woven around it, The UNIVERSAL Law of One. It has threaded from antiquity through to the present.”

Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi, “Odyssey of A Healer”

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Voices that have spoken the Universal Law of One include:

“Human nature was originally One and we were a whole.”

“There is one common flow, one common breathing, all things are in sympathy.”


“To divide or multiply consciousness is something meaningless. In all the world, there is no kind of framework within which we can find consciousness in the plural; this is simply something we construct because of the spatio-temporal pluralty of individuals, but it is a false construction… The category of number, of whole and of parts, are then simply not applicable to it...The overall number of minds is just one… In truth there is only one mind.”

Erwin Schrodinger, 1933 Nobel Prize Winner in Physics

“The notion of a separate organism is clearly an abstraction, as is also its boundary. Underlying all this is unbroken wholeness even though our civilization has developed in such a way as to strongly emphasize the separation into parts.”

David Bohm & Basil Hiley, “The Undivided Universe: An Ontological Interpretation of Quantum Theory”

Focus: Meditations by Tom BarrettYin Yang symbol representing the balance meditation brings

Oneness” is from the Meditation Archive at Interlude: An Internet Retreat.

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Blog: Breathing through our Shared HeartQuan Yin

Breathing through our Shared Heart. You can hear it on my YouTube channel Journeys into Enlightenment with Janet Barrett and you can read it on the blog page at

First there was All, One. All/One includes everything as Consciousness, One Mind. In the wonder of Life, we know as human, we have developed an outward sense of Self as we are individually oriented in our human form. Still, in our internal core, we are Consciousness as Oneness, where the distinction of Self is loosened. Find the whole article on my blog…

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Mmatheo’s theme is composed and arranged by Boyd Martin Mystic Broadcast Network.

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