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Podcast: Episode 25: Healing the Separated Self with Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi

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Essence: Episode NotesHeart with a tree of life inside

Our idea of the Separated Self maintains the illusion of others, including Mother Earth as different, indifferent, threatening or something to be conquered. This illusion is harmful, affecting us each internally and globally. Join Janet and Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi, from Johannesburg Africa as they explore what happens when we use Ubuntu, the African awareness of Oneness, to heal our Separated Self.

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Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi

Dr. Mmatheo Motsisi, is an Indigenous Knowledge System Practitioner (IKS). She was Initiated as a Shaman/Sangoma/Diviner and holds several degrees of healing among them in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and Acupuncture. She has traveled far and wide working with indigenous peoples in Nepal, India, China, USA and Motherland Africa. She is the author of “Odyssey of a Healer” describing a ten-year personal spiritual pilgrimage and the experiences of other healers she has interacted with, during her many travels. It was a journey exploring the “Healing Power of Nature.” Her quest has been to unravel the mystery that underlies the foundations anchoring “Our State of Oneness,” beyond the created and perceived divisions in existence.

She is a vessel to liberally share her spiritual insight with others in their pursuit to unravel the mystery of Mother Nature as the Giver of Life, the Nurturer and Healer. She is comfortable with ritual and the lyrical languages and realms of the heavens, Star Seeds, Blessed Ones, the Ancients and Elders of traditions as she is with modern men and women and the wisdom of the scientist. She straddles the realms of Spirit, Lemuria, Atlantis, and is a carrier of the history and time of all people. She embodies our African Mother that lives in each of us.

Her Holistic Practice is located in Orange Grove, Johannesburg, South Africa.


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Mmatheo reminds us that all is within us. There is nothing to learn, only to remember. Our memories are held in different states and in places that are not always linear.

Roots: Associated WorksTree roots

Suggested Reading includes references for our two episodes about Ubuntu.

Learn more about Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa.

The Children of One and the Lost Teachings of Atlantis” by Jon Peniel, available on Amazon.

Animal Farm” by George Orwell

“The 'Blessed Ones'- as mediators between the spiritual and physical realm- are often entrusted with the spiritual mandate to be the gatekeepers the dimensional portals. This is a high calling bestowed on the individual prior incarnation that ensures continuity between the deities and nature spirits that dwell in the delicate Soul Being or Consciousness of Mother Earth. The individual transmits a higher vibration as an androgynous being in comparison with an ordinary person. The ancient humanoids were androgynous before the engineered gender split. The androgynous beings are powerful carriers of the spirit because of the union between the masculine and the feminine energies in the bodies. The real gender is not anatomic, primarily it is a determinant of who contributes which seed for the continuity of life in the physical realm. The tribal elders, guardians of ancient knowledge, have always advocated that a male in the physical can vibrate a feminine energy while the female vibrates the masculine energy. This is because the spirit inhabiting either the male or female body is itself androgynous: it has both the masculine and feminine energies in perfect balance.”

Ageless: Free Consciousness CookiesCookies – Food for thought

“There is one mind common to all individual men…[a] universal mind. The Over-Soul is that unity…within which every man’s particular being is contained and made one with all other. Within man is the soul of the whole…the eternal ONE.”

Ralph Waldo Emerson

“When we view ourselves in space and time, our consciousnesses are obviously the separate individuals of a particle-picture, but when we pass beyond space and time, they may perhaps form ingredients of a single continuous stream of life. As it is with light and electricity, so it may be with life; the phenomena may be individuals carrying on separate existences in space and time, while in the deeper reality beyond space and time we may be all members of one body.”

Sir James Jeans, Astrophysicist

“The Most Ultimate God, who is the God of the Gods of the Gods, is Everything in Everything. Each tree, each blade of grass and each stone that you see out there, and each one of the things that live, be they men or beasts, are all parts of God, just as each one of the hairs on your head and each flea in your hair and each drop of your blood is part of you. The sun is part of God, the moon is part of God and each one of the stars is but an infinitesimal part of Ultimate God who Will Be, and yet shall never be, because there never was a time when God was not and there never is a time when God can never be.”

Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa, from his book
Indaba, My Children: African Tribal History, Legends, Customs And Religious Beliefs

Focus: Meditations by Tom BarrettYin Yang symbol representing the balance meditation brings

Enlightening the Shadow” is from the Meditation Archive at Interlude: An Internet Retreat.

Listen at the YouTube channel Journeys Into Enlightenment with Janet Barrett.

Blog: Being Willing to See in the Mirror Quan Yin

“Being Willing to See in the Mirror” is available on my website blog page at and my youtube channel Journeys into Enlightenment with Janet Barrett.

“All of us have worth. Some may be in disguise. When we’re in judgment of others we are operating from within a separated sense of Self…” continue reading…

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Janet's theme music composed by Boyd Martin, Mystic Broadcast Network.

Mmatheo’s theme is composed and arranged by Boyd Martin Mystic Broadcast Network.

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